Vice + Lice

So someone, anonymously, posted a link to a blog named Vice + Lice just a few minutes ago. I have been laughing non-stop for about 30 minutes now. The website takes pictures from Nefarious Girl, IStayedUpLate and Miami Nights and skewers the subjects ala Vice's Do's and Don'ts and Gawker's Blue States Lose. This is what Miami New Times' Style Soliders is trying to be, but is sort of failing miserably at. Yea, Vice + Lice's comments can be pretty mean at times, but I can't help but find it hilarious. Shit, I'm even featured in it, and I was able to take the joke. So relish in the deliciously evil nature of the site.

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Frodo? Seriously... the best this person could come up with was a joke about my height? Like I haven't heard every single joke about my height already? I was really hoping for a boob joke or something. I'm not impressed. There was a few I thought were pretty creativly cruel... like the Class of 2012, Bad idea #497, Don't go to Ft. Lauderdale, Do I Look Like A Slut, Bong Hits For Jesus. Otherwise... I'm sure people have made these jokes before... it's just a matter of sitting down and going through a bunch of pictures featuring people other than yourself and having absolutely nothing to do all day but make fun of how ugly people are. I make fun of ugly people all the time. Where the fuck is my cookie?
-Lackner offers me anal on a daily basis.
Wow, Frodo, simmer down.
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haha.
I'm not mad. It's my opinion that there are more creative ways to make fun of me then comparing me to a unrespectably ugly Lord Of The Rings character... hopefully only due to my height.

So, I'm calling you out. I think this blogger is you. Or atleast a good friend of yours that hasn't called you or Bryan out. Or maybe you guys are perfect. Hahaha.
-Lackner offers me anal on a daily basis.
Trust us. It's not us. We have no problem telling it how it is to people's faces. Plus we're all too busy to run another blog.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
Honestly, if it was me I wouldn't use photos from those other terrible photo sites. I have a business to protect here. And furthermore that shit is way too fkn hilarious to be me; my comedy is limited to brief moments of drug-inspired hilarity, more like an orgasm than a mood swing.
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"or atleast a good friend of yours"
Well hence why I said that...
But you have to admit... "Don't Go To Ft. Lauderdale" - such a MiamiNights thing to say.
And there's a few other things about certain disliked people I could point out... but I'll save that for private discussions.
-Lackner offers me anal on a daily basis.
I honestly have no idea who it is. Although, I do have my own theories. Although, I agree with you Suzy, some comments made sounded very "Miami Nights-like" which I automatically knew people were going to start suspecting it was us or someone near us. But it's a FACT that we have no idea who it and don't even know who is running the site.

However, this person is REALLY knowledgeable about the scene, so its obviously someone everyone knows.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
It just scares me how the whole blog sounds like a 5am loft conversation.
Wait... I mean... what am I talking about. We don't make fun of people... WE LIKE PEOPLE!
-Lackner offers me anal on a daily basis.
oh... and can you see the Child Services picture? I can't and I want to know what it is.
-Lackner offers me anal on a daily basis.
I've refrained heavily from using this site as a way to make fun of individual people, and I've been very rigorous about the process of not removing any picture comment except for ones that are extremely personally threatening. I'd like to express that the same underlying thinking process has kept me from starting a separate site just to trash them.

And, flat out, a lot of the people that got trashed in those comments are my friends. I wouldn't do that. Granted I do hate some people in the scene but the people I hate and the people that got trashed on that site aren't the same group.
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Frodo wasnt ugly! although you dont bear any resemblance to Frodo or anything haha so its kinda random and not really funny but whatever...Brittany Anne is up there under "Herpes" lol (sorry Brittany i just think thats so funny) PLUS there cant be anger and hate in our Miami scene..thats for Hardrock and other areas where people go out one night a week from their 9-5 slave labor job..THOSE people get angry and need stress relievers..Miami is all about free love, alcohol, dancing like a dumbass and dressing super crazy..why? cuz you can and your probably on drugs anyway
hahahaha
that's a good perspective, i never looked at it like that
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Only been up for JULY!?

weaksauce...
VERY VERY funny....I can't help but love it.
I guess Zarah wants her turn at getting trashed
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oops, not Zarah.

this is the dude with the crazy spiky hair.
it's a funny blog, what can i say.
ohhh sorry dude. haha.
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I'M THE MAIN ATTRACTION!!
SHOULD THAT BE A GOOD OR BAD THING? LOL

BUT YES, THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYONE
TO EVEN GET AGGREVATED OVER THIS. THE
PERSON SIMPLY WANTED TO GET OUR ATTENTION
& SUCCEEDED... KUDOS
hey im just happy the picture making fun of me features Duran in it. he was in ocean drive magazine you know.

and my wife suzy is in no way shape or form frodo like- tara either. everyones already made fun of their height. has everyone forgot what large tits they both have?
i knocked suzy over once when my ass collided into her head. i felt bad. i never got to apologize :(

the site is gold. blog war waiting to happen..hehe..
I think the person will be outed soon. Too much fame too fast
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Thanks ally!

My opinion: it's definately somebody close to us and I dont think this charade will last much longer. Don't take what this guy says personally, he's only doing it for attention and seriously, who the fuck cares.

love, frodo? ;]
i beat bitches up.
Funniest shit I've ever seen, some of it at least. Totally a ft. lauderdalian or a boca ratonian.
My name is odnarb backwards
ill be so proud if its someone from Boca considering Bocas claim to fame is decrepid old people and snooty JAPS.

and Lex...do you really wear glasses without lenses??? I am going to poke you in the eye one night to teach you a lesson. If their not for seeing better at least lenses protect your eyes from projectiles and wandering fingers. Thats probably why you are on the Vice+Lice feature. Lets talk about how amazing Josh is as Papa Smurf...haha "He takes footage of the Smurfette gang bangs and jerks off to them later on"
billermo... that joke would've been clever if I had any idea who the fuck you were. =]
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not a joke... it really happened. my profile links to my flickr. recognize.
bekah must you add fuel to the fire :)
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It's stupid that people are having heart attacks over this. I know people who are actually afraid to have pictures of them taken out now cause they don't want to end up on there... how dumb...

Personally I'm honored that someone took the time to post up two pictures of me...
and comment where people call me a cunt or a whore, whoooo hooooo that's sooo hurtful. I've been called much worse...
and truth be told...
I am a cunt. And I'm ok with that.

So it's dumb that people are so upset about it, if you don't have herpes and you don't think you're ugly or short or something it shouldn't be that big of a deal...

I think I'm more mad that people think Thomas would do this site. I think if you were going to be cruel to people you'd just openly do it in a club, I think it's much more embarressing to have someone announce in a club that you look like a fashion failure infront of 30 people. I think you're much to above that, it's such s 14 year old thing to do ha.

It's a lot of fun to skim through though :)
P.S. That's amazing that you knocked her over with your ass, Suzys such a cutie, I don't see why it matter if she's short, big deal, just makes her boobies look 38479287398x bigger.
She does have a nice rack.

... For a hobbit.
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Adam Frankel?
i'm not going to lie, the site is really starting to get to me...
they started out strong, now they are just being mean. they had a good concept but the opted instead to just try to bring people down. so i definitely agree with you brittany ann.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
Plus the comments section is just mountains of trite insults. Comments should be closed on the site and the editors should set the tone, in my opinion.
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Exactly! The captions aren't as bad as the comments other people leave. Although the herpes one kind of sucks for me. Oh well at least I really don't have it.
Maybe it was oral herpes. Everyone's got that!

This is an interesting social experiment from a lot of angles. I'm not sure why the comments bother me so much more than the editorialized captions. Perhaps the answer lies in the borderline between moderated, structured discourse and the mob mentality of those faceless comments, localized so harshly because we all know those people..

It's interesting to me that early on some of our "scene" galleries got a lot of comments like that, but it never went to that extreme, despite the fact that I have still never deleted a single comment of that nature. What does that say about the way a site influences the unmoderated discussion that goes on inside of it?
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Yes Lackner, what does that say about society as a whole? What do you think Socrates would would have said? Does commenting make the person or does the person make the commenting?

Way to get all philosophical on a blog.

And speak for yourself on oral herpes. I have a clean bill of health.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
Sorry, I'll post some animated GIFs of monkeys fucking or something easy to understand.
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the whole blog is steeped in the appeal of anonymity , the creator is hiding behind that wall and so is who ever comments on the site. of course people are going to get nasty real fast when there isnt any open identities anywhere. i wouldnt be surprised to find some hardcore racist hate talk on that website eventually.

but for the most part i lol'ed.
But even on shit like 4chan.org which is completely anonymous in every way and VERY active (millions of posts a month) you don't see that level of nastiness. They have unwritten rules that people pay attention to, including not breaking the law about CP. (Don't ask if you don't lurk on 4c)
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It's just a high-tech slambook. Remember those? Except this time, there's no one to take it away from you at the lunch table while you're 'anonymously' ripping on that skanky ho shaniqua who stole your boyfriend at the skating rink last saturday.


ps:
i love everyone's 'we're under seige' attitude...Batten down the hatches, we've all gotta stick together now! it's very 'goonies never say die'-esque


pps: sorry if i offended any shaniqua's out there. are there any in the scene? i'd really love to find one.
toot toot. beep beep.
so i guess in miami, when your behind a mask things get pretty nasty. 4chan is less personal since your dealing with random people from around the world. v+l is targeted to very specific niche of people who are apparently sensitive and blow up over insults online. it can be nasty but imho its harmless, in the long run i think the blogs impact is very limited.

if gypsy wanted to she could give the website shit for copyright infringement on her photos (so could you i guess) thats the worst i beleive could ever happen. or maybe a bitchslap down the road.

yeah, the local aspect is what makes it so real, so painful, so important. i wouldn't have thought that if you had explained the premise of that site to me a week ago. i would have thought the comments would be MORE timid, more restrained, more kind.. these are our friends. even if you dont like a person you probably dont really hate them that much. that's what i was trying to explore earlier but i guess duran thinks you guys are too dumb to have a serious conversation about something.
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2+2=CAT that's something they'll understand Lackner :)
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
sooo i was taking a shower and i thought about halloween...you guys should dress up like Miami KNIGHTS with swords and armor..the noble saviors of all that is scene (and then some)! I love you guys!
well, at least you think about us in the shower....
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the only thing that bothers me about L+V is the people who post anonymous..ill say what i say to anyone and if someone knows who i am it is a lot easier for them to find ways to insult me..if you post anonymous its like swinging in the dark...1/2 the time i dont even know the gender unless something slips (no pun intended --- ha!) this feel like livejournal and i did not get involved them and i need to try to UNinvolve myself in these blogwars now...cant we all watch GWAR and get drunk, dress like hip retards, and dance? pleeeeaaassseeee???
The reason the comments on that site get so bad versus this site is because the entire point of that site is to bring people down, this site is to show people what miami is, not to destroy everything it was ever supposed to represent.
All those little people wanted to do was pick on people they don't personally know.
I'm not bothered by either the captions or the comments even though I think it's funny one comment was "That girls a whore, proven fact" and I don't really know how most people would be able to prove via internet that I give blowjobs for money, unless ofcourse you're passing over some personal video footage that you told me you'd never show anyone ::winkwink::

But you have to look at the content of both websites, people aren't going to get foul mouthed and idiotic on a site they know most people skim on a regular basis & still have the balls to leave their name... Plus it wouldn't be so openly accepted on this site, I mean yea, everyone makes fun of people every once in awhile (for instance the hour we spent disproving that girls "modeling career") but when it comes down to it, there aren't many sites that are as openly degrading towards people as that site.


p.s. Your site finally let me bloody log into this stupid profile, I've had it for ages & it would never actually log me in
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Soooo, I think the VICE AND LICE has been deleted... like everything in Miami, here one sec gone the next I guess...
The end.

Good old fashioned naughty fun turned ugly. V+L definitely did not see the comments being a factor..Shit, V+L didn't even know half the things that were said on there.

Miami apparently isn't ready to laugh at itself.

V+L will be watching and waiting...Round 2 might be just around the corner.
-YO

Ps. My personal favs got "boring...take it down"..So go figure.
YO V+L could have turned the comments off. And really if anyone is to blame for the comments getting ugly, it's V+L. It started out hilarious in the beginning, but the posts got a little nasty at the end there which I think lend others to believe they could get nasty too. The concept was good, I just think if V+L is going to come back it needs to be more on the lines of Vice mag or Gawker, maybe with a twist.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
+1. More editorial, less anonymous mob-rape. Perhaps a weekly "Caption this photo" with comments turned on. Yo, if you want to use Elephant for the v2 blog let me know; it's expensive as fuck but we can work out a deal.
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but for better or worse, there is an overall concensus that some people are very disliked in this so called scene. You could tell how one person inspired rage and anger while others did not. Lackner, check your email.

-YO.
P.S. Version 2 is on the works...
people are disliked everywhere. your forum just highlighted how ready people are to get the hater in them turned on 100%. it caught on and burned out "temporarily" and only you (yo) know why. its a shame the shallow insecurities of those offended got the better of them. i commend you for causing a stir among the blogs and exposing how fast a faceless miami can get disgusting.

thanks for delivering the funny (for the most part)
+5000 internets
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Posted at 07/06 10:14am by Lackner
Honestly, if it was me I wouldn't use photos from those other terrible photo sites.

Really? So in other words those other photographers have no business taking pictures. So your claim states that your site and only your site has the best pictures. Guess everyone has a right to their own opinion. Unfortunately, I would have to disagree with you and taking a wild guess, so would alot of others.
It's just a joke dude. :) Relax.

Though Eyes on Miami is truly terrible.
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