Srsly... I mean... FOR REAL? nowai!

I'm unable to stop myself from posting this insightful article I found this morning over my meandering at artfagcity.com's wonderfully useful sidepanel of links galore. Adbuster's 79th cover issue article "Hipster: The Dead End of Western Civiization" has all the printed hoodies in america up in arms. The comments section towards the bottom is at a staggering 650+ comments since its publishing only about a week ago. I recommend everyone that claims to be even at least remotely aware of THE OUTSIDE WORLD to read this article.

I don't even like the ADbuster's publication. It's usually hypocritical rhetoric on the evil of corporations and the brainwashing of the media, and the way they get the point across is through subliminal ADS, clever MARKETING tricks and not to mention all the PRODUCTS they manufacture and pander to suggestable activist wannabes..... but thats another story.

Like I said, if you consider yourself an engaging member of contemporary society, including but not limited to acts such as Poping SpiderPussies off your Backdoor Bambies then  READ THIS ARTICLE!

 

FINE, DON'T READ IT, I'll do the hard part for you (clicking a link) and force feed you the major points of the article: in extended


The author argues that today's "counterculture" (vs the Punk and HipHop movements of the late 70's) is a shallow attempt of re-appropriating aesthetic elements of prior styles from the history of 20th century American popular culture. He sums it up nicely with:  

An artificial appropriation of different styles from different eras, the hipster represents the end of Western civilization – a culture lost in the superficiality of its past and unable to create any new meaning. Not only is it unsustainable, it is suicidal. While previous youth movements have challenged the dysfunction and decadence of their elders, today we have the “hipster” – a youth subculture that mirrors the doomed shallowness of mainstream society. 

 Picking, choosing, recycling and regurgitating all that vintage and "old school" threadery, going on and on making silly attempts at being an "Individual" while failing (by thinking you are the only person who shops at urban outfitters) to miss the Idea that you maybe aren't achieving a unique new look.

With nothing to defend, uphold or even embrace, the idea of “hipsterdom” is left wide open for attack. And yet, it is this ironic lack of authenticity that has allowed hipsterdom to grow into a global phenomenon that is set to consume the very core of Western counterculture. Most critics make a point of attacking the hipster’s lack of individuality, but it is this stubborn obfuscation that distinguishes them from their predecessors, while allowing hipsterdom to easily blend in and mutate other social movements, sub-cultures and lifestyles.


Buddy goes on this tid-bit suggesting this "hipsterdom" is closer to a global epidemic with an agenda to infect and destroy the western hemisphere, which is kind of a stretch, but for the sake of his argument works pretty well along the lines of implying all hipsters are brainless zombies. I'm not so sure if this is actually his fear, or just an attack.

HAH! I almost forgot to mention my absolute favorite part, His interpretation of the dance culture evident at these "hipster parties". This one hit one home for me, as I am all too well sick as all hell at the patterns of crap people pass off as dancing and get away with.

The dance floor at a hipster party looks like it should be surrounded by quotation marks. While punk, disco and hip hop all had immersive, intimate and energetic dance styles that liberated the dancer from his/her mental states – be it the head-spinning b-boy or violent thrashings of a live punk show – the hipster has more of a joke dance. A faux shrug shuffle that mocks the very idea of dancing or, at its best, illustrates a non-committal fear of expression typified in a weird twitch/ironic twist. The dancers are too self-aware to let themselves feel any form of liberation; they shuffle along, shrugging themselves into oblivion. 

Without delving into 40-some pages of comments, a major point against the article was made one seriously long response by this guy Rob s. excerpts for clarity are as follows:

1.I will openly acknowledge that I probably qualify as a hipster.

2.he irony in this article is that the author doesn't realize that every counterculture movement to date was either a gimmick invented by advertising or an idea that turned out to be a spectacular failure because of the inherent shallowness of its creators.

Punk, as mentioned, was a marketing ploy. The Sex Pistols were a boy band. A good portion of those "starving punks" were really middle-to-upper-middle-class children of privilege. That doesn't change what The Clash or Black Flag did. But it was still an idea conceived to make money. And if the author seriously believes people in the punk community openly accepted the label of punk during its formative years, then he needs to do some actual research. Even a cursory search through Google could find any number of quotes from "punk" forefathers decrying the label as a slogan created by the media to sell the scene.

3.What did the counterculture honestly create in the '60s, besides new ways to get stoned? It created the Me generation psychobabble of the '70s. The hippies grew up, traded in their ideals for coke, and became Republicans. Any worthwhile cultural contributions were for naught, although those contributions were dubious at best. Why?...To pretend a flower child wasn't being selfish by running out to Woodstock to get fucked out of his or her mind on acid is ridiculous and sugar-coating history. It's also ignorant of the fact that most of America only took to the hippie movement after it started getting co-opted by Madison Avenue (or rather, because of that).

4.We're regurgitating cool because really, why not? The fact that the someone deems a need to create something new is pompous in itself. Nothing is new. Those fashions and that music -- it was coming from someone else. Elvis didn't invent rock music. He stole it from black musicians who stole it from someone before them who stole it from someone before them. We've been stealing from ourselves since the dawn of time. It's about time we finally acknowledge it.

The rest of the commentary is predominantly attacks at the writer, not the content (omg! who would have guessed), along the lines of "that guy just needs to get laid, by a hot hipster girl". or that He is just jealous that he isn't as cool, unique and as modern as everyone else who's always on that list to get in VIP estilo!

Back to the article, one point (probably the one that made me post it here) makes a move on the nightlife photo-blogger:

In many ways, the lifestyle promoted by hipsterdom is highly ritualized. Many of the party-goers who are subject to the photoblogger’s snapshots no doubt crawl out of bed the next afternoon and immediately re-experience the previous night’s debauchery. Red-eyed and bleary, they sit hunched over their laptops, wading through a sea of similarity to find their own (momentarily) thrilling instant of perfected hipster-ness.

A big chunk of truth, or at least, what I agree with the most from the read:

Hipsterdom is the first “counterculture” to be born under the advertising industry’s microscope, leaving it open to constant manipulation but also forcing its participants to continually shift their interests and affiliations. Less a subculture, the hipster is a consumer group – using their capital to purchase empty authenticity and rebellion. But the moment a trend, band, sound, style or feeling gains too much exposure, it is suddenly looked upon with disdain. Hipsters cannot afford to maintain any cultural loyalties or affiliations for fear they will lose relevance.

It becomes formulaic for lets say, any garment manufacturer, able to afford a marketing dept. to be able to calculate and experiment with microscopic precision the conception of a "trend", hell people get paid loads of money to do this. I don't find much wrong with taking advantage of america's desire (crack-addiction) to consumption. I'm a graphic designer. I can read marketing campaigns like the back of a milk carton. It's hypnotic and ingenius. But also sad how many horde's of people play victim to its seductive gaze. $150 for a pair of HI-LITER NIKE HI-TOPS, GTFO! I don't care if they go great with your "clubbin Shades" you are a toy.

I sure as hell don't want this post to be perceived as a preaching to the author of the writing, So hate on something else if you have to. My concern with sharing this belongs to the curiosity of what kind of response this will get out of the MIAMI scene, and maybe open an eye or two.

Oh, and if someone brings up VICE+LICE I'm going to get Lackner to track for me your IP adress so I can find you and break my heavy-ass laptop over your $50 haircut.

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I read the entire article. I may have only been exposed to bits and pieces of Adbuster's articles but at the same time I felt that it was easy to gather that it was partially a psuedo-hipster-targeted publication...? IMO. I agree about the hypocritical rhetoric it's full of as well though.

I'm not all too affected nor offended by what this guy's going off about. It's always amusing to see a stereotype (whether you've fallen into the cracks of it or fully embraced it) dissected. Unfortunately, it was a little too catty for me... this guy sounds like he got the shit beat out of him in high school and is being bitter.
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That author must of stole my notes. I agree with him 98%.

As for the defensive hipster, this quote has a lot of good points until he reached this silly quote..
"We're regurgitating cool because really, why not? The fact that the someone deems a need to create something new is pompous in itself. Nothing is new. Those fashions and that music -- it was coming from someone else."

What that person fails to recognize is that in the past, people created new stuff by building on old stuff. The Stones just didn't steal R+B, they mixed it up with other elements. The same goes with Elvis. Back then, the equation for creating rock n' roll looked something like this..(e.g. country + folk + blues = rock n roll). While in the 2k hipster era, the equation for music usually does not have such an eclectic long equation. It usually looks something like this, (70's Post Punk + better recording devices = 2k post punk) or (90's electro house + better recording devices = 2k hipster house). If you think about it, the last unique music movement was the late 90's IDM scene. Nothing really sounded like it, due to the fact that technology was the force of that movement, and it was honestly cool because it was fresh and an accidental birth from the rave scene.

It is never pompous to create something new and new movements are usually not pre-meditated. New movements are usually created by necessity, by accident, or natural progression. With this new generation of kids who have been overly saturated with hyper-materialism and laziness, hipsterdom was bound to rear its ugly head...especially in a hedonistic town like Miami. Why create something new when you can buy "cool" or borrow it from the past.

burn the clubs, lynch the promoters

I read the definition of the word "hipster" a couple months ago and I don't think most of the people who hang out at places like Vagabond and White Room would qualify other than in the most superficial aspects. That may be due to the fact that Miami is a very superficial and contradictory environment itself. The word "ironic" was used frequently to describe hipsters, their fashion choices and their music, but I think down here I see a lot of "meta-irony": an unintended irony borne out of trying to be calculatedly ironic and failing to do so; irony by accident if you will. Examples: buying a "hipster" hoodie for $100, paying $5+ for a can of PBR, wearing a Che shirt without knowing who he was (or why a large portion of Miami residents hates his guts). There are [likely] some true hipsters in the scene here, but the majority is Miami-flavored.

For me, I like the "indie" scene because of the music, the pretentious lack of pretense, and the less thuggish and usually more intimate crowd.
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let's start a minimal techno subculture here and be uber intellectual like they are in europe. we'll have 15 minute songs with just diff kick drums coming in and out to make ourselves extra minimal/diff/unique

btw simon, easier access to recording technology+ electro house is how hipster/blog house came about

and in the end it is about the music
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I have to agree with you there Jsand, but I would also like to point out that the vibe you are describing sounds more like the early days of the indie nights like Revolver and Poplife, when hipsterdome had not fully come to fruition. The crowd was a mix of music nerds, indie kids, and folks who wanted to hear new stuff....there were also no photo blogs with kids begging to get attention. You step into Poplife (White Room) these days and it is as if Merlin Bronques has thrown up all over the place.
Dalton, I stand corrected. The easy access to technolohy is what is perpetuating everyone to become felix the housecat.
mmhm... lenses glasses people... the first sign of the apocalypse!
gimme a beat!
Ugh, I've been complaining about this shit for a while. I do still think Poplife attracts a wide variety of intellects, but it seems like the new wave of kids are taking this "hipster-dom" thing WAAAAAAAAY too seriously. I do feel like the "hipster" scene in Miami is drastically different from NY or LA's but the underlying "too-cool-for-you" attitude is still there.

I miss the good old days, when it was just about dancing, getting drunk and doing a lot of coke. What happened to those days? When did the imagine one projects trump just having fun?
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
Duran, are you suggesting that you in fact are not a hipster and nothing in the article applies to your lifestyle?


Q: "I miss the good old days, when it was just about dancing, getting drunk and doing a lot of coke. What happened to those days? "

A: 18 yrs old only happens once

Q: When did the imagine one projects trump just having fun?

A: Umm... sentence no maky senso...
I enjoyed reading the article for amusement, but I have to disagree on certain key points:
social counterculture is not at a dead end with hipster style. Hipster is hardly the only counter-culture currently in existence. Although I hardly think it exists for such a purpose, the drum and bass music scene just happens to be inherently counter-culture and antithetical to the main-stream.

Beyond that point, I find that the article satisfies quite a bit of bitterness I experience when I go out, especially about dancing. I don't understand why so few people dance these days. I mean, I see people moving, but they sure as hell aren't dancing. And I don't judge people on how they dance, just that they do or they don't, when they're on the dance floor. If you move like a spastic moron, cool, so long as you're doing in the state of mind that we associate with dancing.

The articles sound really angry, but I think more sympathy is actually warranted. These hipsters have empty values. "Hipsters cannot afford to maintain any cultural loyalties or affiliations for fear they will lose relevance." Their beliefs are without substance... That's pretty sad, and I can't say that I don't personally experience such an existential fear regarding my own values, I just express it differently. But who am I to get high and mighty about the way I express my fears about values?

Regardless of anything, the points are valid, but the tone is arrogant and hostile. And I just fail to appreciate arrogant hostility.

woohoo
.sean
Post-script: "I miss the good old days, when it was just about dancing, getting drunk and doing a lot of coke."

Are you serious?
Billermo: I meant to say the "image" (typo). And at 18 I was in college studying., my party lifestyle came after I graduated college at the age of 22. What am I talking about is where did it go wrong. When did we stop caring about the actual party and start caring what each other looked like? Who are we trying to impress? And I hardly encompass anything the hipster trend holds in high regard (certainly not the strong emphasis fashion or esteem to seem more important than I actually am). And if you actually knew me, you'd know that. If anything, I figured out at 23, the whole scene was something I could exploit for my own financial gain (and I have the balls to admit it). And look at me now :)

And billermo you can think of me whatever way you want to think of me as, if "hipster" is your definition, so be it. Then again can't think you know me very well. I find it funny that people think because they read my blogs, that they think they know anything about me on any level, like the character "Duran" is not but an exaggerated version of myself.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
the majority is Miami-flavored.


Definitely. The attitudes that are considered ubiquitous with this "hipsterific" mentality are very much present in Miami, but Miami in itself reflects attitudes (and I mean some seriously intense fuego-style-ness) that aren't present anywhere else. Thats why I posted this here, I feel Miami lacks a significant social community for its scenes. There is an overwhelming amount of "everyman for himself" everywhere I go, and I sure as fuck have that same attitude, It comes with the sun.
sean: oh and fighting against the orwellian measures placed by the bush administration too ;)
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
oh and too add one more note: the whole culture was never about anything greater than partying, something i never had a problem with. its when the material and physical measures started to become more prominent did i start having a problem. and i don't think anyone should expect a culture born our of the party scene to be anything greater than that: a party scene.
Ghost of Miami Nights Past
duran, I don't mean to come off as I'm judging you as a hipster (omg!) and yeah, I have read a lot of your writing here (also on newtimesblog) and the character seems reflective of the guy I say sup to on 14st pretty often.

Didn't mean to confuse the actual you with the you but understand thats all I have to understand you as ( prolly a lot of other ppl 2).

don't take that the wrong way.

I too am guilty of americanapparelizing myself.
The one thing a hipster cant stand being called is.....a hipster...(ZOMG!)
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damn.

b.a.c. may be on to some thing.
I too am guilty of americanapparelizing myself.


Just realized that I was wearing head-to-toe American Apparel when I typed up that comment. I lose.
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Is there a hipster scene in Ft. Lauderdale? I don't really have much to compare with other than info I read online. In Pittsburgh there was no scene, for anything, and I think I lived in Boston before the current monstrosity that is called "hipster culture" came to be. In general, Miami has a way of transforming most cultural phenomena into its own version that is pretty distinct from the standard version.
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well i mean trick does love the kids here
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Youth movements, sub-cultures, counter-cultures- whatever title you want to give it, they are really nothing more than a group of young people in a moment in time. Every so often a new one moves in, hangs out, gets old, and moves on. The mere fact that music and fashion are basically the keys to the whole idea, show how fickle (or dare I say trendy) it all truly is. Let’s take a hard look shall we:

Hippies 60’s
Disco 70’s and 80’s (especially in Miami)
Punk in the 70’s and 80’s
New Wave 80’s
Hip Hop 80’s and 90’s
Grunge 90’s
Club Kids 90’s
The lists go on and on and on…

Each grouping has a distinct look and sound.
This new batch is no different.

Let’em dance around, it’s not like anyone who understands what real life is actually like takes it that serious, unless of course you work for a marketing agency of course.

And yes I am wearing American Apparel as I type this. What can I say, I love solid colored knitwear.
gimme a beat!
I love that this is approaching a very diverse social dialogue. someone keep this thread alive, i will be on laters.
This is full of shit. Every generation and movement from here on out will develop under the microscope of marketeers. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't work. When you have company like scion that tries as hard as they do to identify with hipsters to the tune of millions and their product is modestly shrugged off, their parties disregarded and under attended what you really see is a group of people who just don't give a fuck. Nothing is sacred. But isn't that what Adbusters want? Anti-movement everything?

It's easy to be nostalgic about punk rock and the energy it brought to a dance floor. That's a cop out. Community Building and organizational structure is what Adbuster's doesn't like even though it's what is needed to take on the corpratocracy. I canceled my subscription this year because they haven't written anything new in about 6 years and when they do it's thoughtless and hyperthematic. I thought their postcards were cute though. But Fuck the USPS.
I'm trying to bring aristocracy back.

We'll know each other by what our last names, we'll be intellectuals, and we'll have proper table manners. We'll shun the morons and those of poor taste and hygiene. We'll rid Miami of all these rich, no-class losers and establish our own classy trends, not based on money but rather being as proper as possible. Showing off in public will be frowned upon, but we will have things to show off in private. Your car will be stock; not even tints. We'll hang out at Florida Room all day. We'll listen to jazz during the week and house when we want to dance. Because it's something this town hasn't seen in 50 years, our scene will be a progressive one, as opposed to the traditional conservative aristocracy.

Who's with me?
"Ahh, she's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro."
This hipster thing is so big now, its like bigger than scene kids. Its a bit annoying, that I cannot wear flannel, or certain types of clothing w/o being questioned if I am a hipster-its so stupid. I wear American Apparel rarely, I don't like what its associated with though. Some of the people that go to white room are called hipsters because they either shop only at forever 21, thrift stores, or american apparel. Not that man people like mixing, I wear american apparel w/yves saint laurent sometimes. And, about Duran's comment on coke-not a lot of people can afford it anymore, people are switching to Adderall now. Keep the prepubescent teenage girls out of downtown miami nightlife, maybe the hipster thing will fade away slowly.
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I generally wear whatever I want when I go out. I've never been big on wearing costumes, which is what counterculture fashion is. Every movement has a uniform: Doc Martens, mohawks, leather jackets, Chuck Taylors, etc. It facilitates identifying who's a part of your "group" and who isn't. As for the drug part, I thought prescription drugs were generally more expensive per unit than most illegal drugs, and harder to come by. I still see coke as being the king in Miami. Pills are more of a "high school" thing and coke is more "grown up", so I've been told.
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